robke Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I am in the I am not to sure camp, it is like said no blood on the dog...and then what has happened with the terrier? I doubt that we will find out what exactly happened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel101094 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I am in the I am not to sure camp, it is like said no blood on the dog...and then what has happened with the terrier? I doubt that we will find out what exactly happened... The only way we will find out about the mal is the post mortem results. If the police were certain it was the dog, it would have been destroyed already.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_tinmois Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I have read a dozen reports of this, and I agree, it doesn't add up at the moment. The latest update says there will be more information at the end of the week, when the post mortem will take place. However I read that the parents have been released but were originally detained on manslaughter charges. This is standard procedure though I think. It sounds like the dog must be a husky/mal cross, because there was a mention of blue eyes somewhere and its extremely rare to get a Mal with blue eyes. The part that worried me was that the chap bought the dog in a pub 'because the people didn't want it'. Does that suggest it was a problem dog ? - yet neighbours say it was quite docile. Still, a terrible tragedy. Also, as mentioned, our breed is going to come under scrutiny again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel101094 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I have read a dozen reports of this, and I agree, it doesn't add up at the moment. The latest update says there will be more information at the end of the week, when the post mortem will take place. However I read that the parents have been released but were originally detained on manslaughter charges. This is standard procedure though I think. It sounds like the dog must be a husky/mal cross, because there was a mention of blue eyes somewhere and its extremely rare to get a Mal with blue eyes. The part that worried me was that the chap bought the dog in a pub 'because the people didn't want it'. Does that suggest it was a problem dog ? - yet neighbours say it was quite docile. Still, a terrible tragedy. Also, as mentioned, our breed is going to come under scrutiny again. The pub part worried me as well, why would anyone accept a dog from a person at the pub? But i dont think that necessarily means the dog was a 'problem dog'. It could be that the person bought the dog not realising that these dogs are very energetic. It is very confusing at the moment, Our breed or any other large breed have been in the firing line for a while. People always get worried around bigger dogs without even knowing the nature of the dogs. My brother got barked at by a dog all the time when doing his paper round, he always said "there is this really aggressive dog down a street where i deliver papers" I saw the dog once when helping my brother do his round, yeah the dog was barking, but all he wanted was attention, he was a well natured dog that was just a big puppy. That is an example of people jumping to conclusions about larger dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Yet another horrific news item regarding the extremely sad loss of human life - for whatever reason? The only thing that we can all be sure of, (at this stage), is the fact that the Malamute breed will now be tarnished by the actions of the media in their never ending search for 'sensational' news items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markulous Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Apparently: The fate of the two dogs seized following the death of the six-day-old girl is being left to their owners to decide, the police said today (Wednesday). Nice to see something coming out of the Kennel Club (in this case, the Secretary) with which I can agree: "Any dog breed can be a wonderful pet or potentially dangerous in the wrong hands, which is why it is critical to have the correct training and socialisation. Alaskan Malamutes can be good pets for the right people but their rapid increase in popularity has largely been fuelled by fashion, with too many people failing to do their research or to understand the amount of training and exercise that they require.†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 That's the first thing I thought. Something happened, whether it was an accident, but the parents maybe thought they would be held liable and charged with something so they made it look like the dog did it? Horrible to think but the way the article was written and the lack of credible details made me think that. So how many people think this isnt the dog? Im sorry but who leaves any dog with a baby or young child? I know that even though my four sibes are the sweetest dogs ever, i would never under any circumstance leave them alone with a young child or baby. I strongly believe that this mal hasnt attacked this little girl. First of all there was apparently no blood on the dog, im sorry but it would have been covered, they arent exactly neat eaters :/ There would have been nothing left of the baby. There are dangerous dogs but there are also uneducated owners who get these wonderful breeds as a trophy.... I dont know what else to say apart from if this little girl's parents have accused the dog to get a headline in the paper, well they are sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 On my walk today I had a couple walk past me point at shadow and say look there's one of those dogs that killed that baby And also had a friend put on Facebook that anyone with dogs shouldn't have kids and is really kicking off about it don't think he is gonna be a friend for much longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBY Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 As an owner of a Malamute If I see one person make a snide comment about my dog they can be told where to shove it. It is such a shame that a baby died, why would you leave a dog with a child unsupervised? It's just absolutely moronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Quite a few members here have a mal or a mal x husky and I doubt very much that you will need to use that course of action here. Rip little one Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wy Renegade Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 Sad state of affairs, but if the dogs fates are being left to the owners, there if obviously no conclusive evidence tying them to the death of the child. If there were, the dogs would be PTS by the authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 On my walk today I had a couple walk past me point at shadow and say look there's one of those dogs that killed the baby Same here. Was on my way to the poo bin and passed two ladies. Ice was smiling at them and I heard one say "ooh did u hear about that baby?" dunno what the reply was but they eyed ice up quickly as he was walking off. Wouldn't of minded if he was being a nuisance but he was actually being good for a change. If he'd tried to jump them, reckon it might have kicked off a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Angel n Auroras Mum Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 So many friends facing animosity today. Ones scared of walking her dogs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 So many friends facing animosity today. Ones scared of walking her dogs! so sad wont stop me walking mine and i'll give hell to anyone who dare say anything bad about my babies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike101 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 There is something strange about this.. If the dog had have killed the baby , I'm sure it would have been obvious, and the authorities would have had the dog PTS.. but things have been so quiet .. and No , no one will stop me walking my pup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBY Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Quite a few members here have a mal or a mal x husky and I doubt very much that you will need to use that course of action here. Rip little one Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Oh no, I meant on the street when I'm walking Bigby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Ive been following this story, and at one point even put a comment on the daily mail about its title on the article....Dog Savaged baby.. I actually feel rather strongly about this whole thing...quite angry to be honest. Yet again the media have said to much and come to the assumption about things. lets look at the facts we know so far 1st the dog has not been destroyed 2nd they are to carry out a post mortem 3rd the amount of different stories going round 1 saying the dog ate my babys head 1 say the dog rolled over on the baby 1 say the dog was found by a neighbour (as previously mentioned) Quote, its a big dog, and white around the mouth...I saw nothing out of the usual....not sure how that works if it savaged the child like the newspapers are insinuating. plus it also stated in this article that the dog was around the ambulance, and she called him over to her and he came, she then handed him to the police, if the dog had "savaged" the child then surely the police would have been trying to capture him! The dog had been with them and their 2 other children for a couple of months..if I remember correctly at least 4. Having also got another dog you'd think they would have ensure the child was kept away from the dog un supervised...however the article does not state weather the child was and the dog had managed to get in to the childs room...I don't think we should point fingers and say they should have kept the child away from the dog, if we aren't certain that that is what they had done...we all know that huskys and mals have the ability to open doors etc... At the end of the day newspapers and media should not speculate, it does nothing to help the situation. I am sorry a child died, and I am sorry it is a Mal that is at the centre of this story, I am not sure if this is becoming a more common thing, dogs attacks or if people are reporting it more these days, but something needs to be done. Dogs should not be on a dangerous dog list, people should hold more responsibility for the safety of others and themselves. to many people think they are "experts" and know how to control any dog, don't do their research and don't train their dogs properly. I wish we could come up with a solution, fear out rules sensibility here, people are afraid because of those few who are reckless. I don't blame those who want all dogs to be muzzled ect, I blame those who shouldn't own dogs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandaleigh89 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Ugh... I hate stories like this. Gives innocent little dogs such a terrible rep, when it's the pet owners responsibility. Poor little baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 just seen a post for a mal for sale - selling due to the bad press n having a child it has now scared them to have the dog around them , its not even an adult mal , only 1 year old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robke Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 just seen a post for a mal for sale - selling due to the bad press n having a child it has now scared them to have the dog around them , its not even an adult mal , only 1 year old That is sooooo sad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkyries Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Agree with Toni (stranger) 1. the dog as not been put down - usually dog put down straight away. 2. postmortem ? if the dog ate the head or even bite the baby - you can clearly see 3. parents pay tribute ? i'd be on volume not speaking to the press 4. they can't even get the breed right. husky/mal it's like saying dobbi/rotty it so doesn't add up for me they'd know if it was a dog attack but their still investigating ? i so hope it's not the dog and the press can go eat humble pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #5 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Agree with Toni (stranger) 1. the dog as not been put down - usually dog put down straight away. 2. postmortem ? if the dog ate the head or even bite the baby - you can clearly see 3. parents pay tribute ? i'd be on volume not speaking to the press 4. they can't even get the breed right. husky/mal it's like saying dobbi/rotty it so doesn't add up for me they'd know if it was a dog attack but their still investigating ? i so hope it's not the dog and the press can go eat humble pie I agree with much of what's been said so far - a lot of baseless speculation. Val - as if they would or would even know how to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clare70 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 It is all rather fishy to me. Why would the Mum run out of the house shouting her baby was dead? Surely you'd stay with the child, at least be holding it. Then why was the dog outside, press said a neighbour called it and he came over to the neighbour. Why has the dog not been pts if what's been said is true. I feel for you guys in the UK walking your dogs and getting snide comments or looks, especially before the facts are known. Still doesn't change the fact a baby has been killed, so sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chula Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 I can't believe people are saying things to you on walks. I guess we have enough people in the US bitten/attacked by dogs that people don't even think to make a comment anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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