BingBlaze n Skyla Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Be careful even with contracts , Skyla had a contract with her breeder and her previous owners didn't give 2 stuffs n tried to sell her on regardless ,, luckily her breeder found out and got her back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Congratulations on the litter, they look gorgeous. I'll bet you are all exhausted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel101094 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Be careful even with contracts , Skyla had a contract with her breeder and her previous owners didn't give 2 stuffs n tried to sell her on regardless ,, luckily her breeder found out and got her back My dad picked up on that, Im sure if we see one of them online for sale, we will recognise them and hopefully get them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 My dad picked up on that, Im sure if we see one of them online for sale, we will recognise them and hopefully get them back. hopefully that doesnt happen tho , seems some people just get them for the money tho , she was only 14 weeks when we got her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel101094 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 hopefully that doesnt happen tho , seems some people just get them for the money tho , she was only 14 weeks when we got her Gosh thats young... By the way she is stunning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Gosh thats young... By the way she is stunning i know the breeder had her back for a week before we got her too ,, thanks so are all of yours , the pups are adorable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel101094 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 i know the breeder had her back for a week before we got her too ,, thanks so are all of yours , the pups are adorable Wow very young. And youre welcome And thanks, they are all crazy as well haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmscott Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 · Hidden Hidden Both parents will need to be health tested to be sure they don't pass along genetic diseases at least hip and eye. The dog can be tested now, but the bitch will need some time to recover after whelping. It costs a lot but that is what it takes to breed responsibly. You should be able to contact your local breed kennel club and find a mentor that can help you along with evaluating the puppies and drawing up a contract. Link to comment
mel101094 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Both parents will need to be health tested to be sure they don't pass along genetic diseases at least hip and eye. The dog can be tested now, but the bitch will need some time to recover after whelping. It costs a lot but that is what it takes to breed responsibly. You should be able to contact your local breed kennel club and find a mentor that can help you along with evaluating the puppies and drawing up a contract. This is the only time we are breeding, we are using the money to get them all 'done', plus they arent KC registered, three are rescue and one is from a breeder, they never came with papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel101094 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 So im asking for my mum, ever since Moo gave birth, she looks at my mum like she wants to attack her, sometimes she growls at her. It actually started on the day she went into the first stages of labour, she was sat in the whelping box, so my mum went in to see her and Moo showed her teeth at her. Moo is fine with my dad, she lets me in the box but she doesnt like me touching the pups a lot, she wont let my brother in the box but she doesnt growl, she just gives him an eye, like a warning. She got on really well with my mum before she gave birth, like snuggling on the sofa etc. But now its like she is a threat to Moo, like she see's my mum like she does Nook. My mum is really bothered by it, to the point were its upsetting her and kind of scaring her. My mum suffers from nerve damage in her ear, so it makes her balance go funny, could that effect the way Moo sees her? Even though she had that before Moo was pregnant... Please help, if anyone has any suggestions on what could have made her suddenly change her view on my mum, it would be very helpful.... I should add that she is like it out of the whelping box as well, so its not because she feels trapped or she is protecting the box..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmscott Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 · Hidden Hidden It doesn't matter if they are reg. The health tests can still be done. A single litter makes for a breeder. It may be as simple as she still has a lot of hormonal changes going on and after the pups are weaned and out of the box at about 8-9 weeks then she will go back or this may simply be her adult personality. If she is from a breeder comtact them and ask if they had drastic changes with their own bitch when she was bred. Link to comment
mel101094 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 It doesn't matter if they are reg. The health tests can still be done. A single litter makes for a breeder. It may be as simple as she still has a lot of hormonal changes going on and after the pups are weaned and out of the box at about 8-9 weeks then she will go back or this may simply be her adult personality. If she is from a breeder comtact them and ask if they had drastic changes with their own bitch when she was bred. But im not breeding anymore, it was just this one time. And thats what i thought, she is normally a really good dog and her personality is positive. She is also a rescue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wy Renegade Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Dogs can actually sense amazing things, so it may even be something as simple as she now perceives your mother as a potential threat since if she were fall on her it might prevent her from caring for the puppies. Hard to say for sure. Often moms will get a lot more protective when they have pups, so it is likely tied to the birth. Tell mom not to be too concerned and just be sure and give Moo her space right now. If she wants to see or visit the puppies have her do it when Moo is out for potty breaks. As the puppies get older however, you want to expose them to lots of people and handling (not for another couple weeks or so), this is known as socializing and helps the puppies get used to being handled and also used to new things. Even though you only bred the one time, it still doesn't hurt to have the testing done. That way you know if something genetic might show up later and come back to bite you in the butt. If you sale the puppies on contract as healthy and sound, and later they end up with hip displasyia or eye problems, the people you sold to could come back and ask for their money back. It is not only for the buyers protection, but also for your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel101094 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Dogs can actually sense amazing things, so it may even be something as simple as she now perceives your mother as a potential threat since if she were fall on her it might prevent her from caring for the puppies. Hard to say for sure. Often moms will get a lot more protective when they have pups, so it is likely tied to the birth. Tell mom not to be too concerned and just be sure and give Moo her space right now. If she wants to see or visit the puppies have her do it when Moo is out for potty breaks. As the puppies get older however, you want to expose them to lots of people and handling (not for another couple weeks or so), this is known as socializing and helps the puppies get used to being handled and also used to new things. See thats why i mentioned my mum's condition because i thought that could be something to do with it. And my mum already has cuddles when Moo is outside. And i know the puppy stages, like i said before i have over researched on all that stuff i already know quite a bit about dog behaviour and stuff like that, i wanted to be a dog trainer, but then like always i changed my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wy Renegade Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 See thats why i mentioned my mum's condition because i thought that could be something to do with it. And my mum already has cuddles when Moo is outside. And i know the puppy stages, like i said before i have over researched on all that stuff i already know quite a bit about dog behaviour and stuff like that, i wanted to be a dog trainer, but then like always i changed my mind. Never hurts to double check our own thought process does it?! LOL. Don't know if you saw this part or not, so thought I would throw it back up, since I edited it after the fact. Even though you only bred the one time, it still doesn't hurt to have the testing done. That way you know if something genetic might show up later and come back to bite you in the butt. If you sale the puppies on contract as healthy and sound, and later they end up with hip displasyia or eye problems, the people you sold to could come back and ask for their money back. It is not only for the buyers protection, but also for your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel101094 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Never hurts to double check our own thought process does it?! LOL. Don't know if you saw this part or not, so thought I would throw it back up, since I edited it after the fact. Even though you only bred the one time, it still doesn't hurt to have the testing done. That way you know if something genetic might show up later and come back to bite you in the butt. If you sale the puppies on contract as healthy and sound, and later they end up with hip displasyia or eye problems, the people you sold to could come back and ask for their money back. It is not only for the buyers protection, but also for your own. Oh yeah i didnt see that bit haha. How much do these tests cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #5 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Mel, if you haven't figured it out yet, dogs are really weird people!! I can imagine a lot of possible reasons why she might be nervous about your mother ... but all of them come out ending with "ask you mom to wait, patiently, until she starts to wean the pups and I'll bet that everything will revert to normal." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel101094 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Mel, if you haven't figured it out yet, dogs are really weird people!! I can imagine a lot of possible reasons why she might be nervous about your mother ... but all of them come out ending with "ask you mom to wait, patiently, until she starts to wean the pups and I'll bet that everything will revert to normal." I will tell her that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elyse Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Oh yeah i didnt see that bit haha. How much do these tests cost? It varies from country to country, vet to vet. I'd call around, asking to see how much they would charge. You're looking for CERF (for eye certification) and OFA (not sure what this acronym stands for, but its for the hips) tests, although they may be called something different in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wy Renegade Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I have no idea in the UK, hopefully someone from over there can give you some idea. Over here the eye check-up is relative cheap, around $20 per dog or so, the hard part is finding someone to perform the test, as the vet has to be an eye specialist. The hip testing is a bit more expensive, around $160 per dog. Sometimes you get a discount for doing multiple dogs at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmscott Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 · Hidden Hidden In the UK the British Kennel Club offers the testing. http://www.bva.co.uk/canine_health_schemes/Canine_Health_Schemes.aspx Link to comment
mel101094 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 The puppies eyes are open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marc Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 DO NOT show my wife those LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 awe!! cute puppies!!! :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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