Bec Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 GIVEN ALL THESE FACTORS WOULD ANY OF YOU CHOOSE TO BREED YOUR SIBE, AND LETS NOT FORGET, IT IS PURELY REGARDING A ONE TIME ONLY LITTER AND THAT IS IT! No, because I don't agree with breeding unpapered dogs and certainly not just for the sake of it, for a once off just because I can. I don't see why you are so uptight about people being honest in regards to breeding unpapered dogs? You asked if people would breed in your situation and you are getting honest answers back. I wish this had been made clearer in the poll, instead of asking people 'would you breed your dog' if you had instead asked 'should I breed my dog'. I know the poll results would certainly be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowdog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 o.m.god me too, hubby shed sibeys house lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koda Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Smeagle your never gonna like me any ways are you so why comment?its really Like you wanna have an arguement with me. and who said i didnt want anything to do with them once they got ova a year old? I said i take a dog back in under a year old. if your not prepared to look after a dog then why buy 1? And end of day i may try to help them find new owners and help them the best as i could but couldnt take it back in after a year old like i said you dont no how its been brought up do you. And also would you porn your children off if it got to hard for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Gotta say this, big sibes little sibes, no matter what they have come from my babies and i would never ever turn one away, i am only having one litter anyway, so if i ended up with ten big sibes still my family, i have built a big area out back which would fit this amount if needed for a time in order to rehome, and yes ive decided deffo now neeko and neo will have pups!! And if the new owner needed for whatever reason to bring him/her back i would open with welcome arms and thank god they brought them back to me and didnt leave them on a rope in a field for any freak to find and abuse, it would be hard, but i would do it, and i wished i lived in a mansion also because i would have a farmyard also, but hey i dont xx That's a good attitude to have - good luck with everything, I hope that everything goes well for your pack and the pups, it sounds like you've got the provisions set aside and you have the support from your vet which is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid_Wolf Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 well i will give you rep once im allowed again lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Smeagle your never gonna like me any ways are you so why comment?i She commented because this is an open forum for discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bec Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 We would always take any dog back that we had bred no matter what the age. We chose to bring the dog into the world and so it is OUR responsibility and always will be. I really cannot understand the attitude of breeders who would not do this. Why breed if you can't be bothered to take your responsibilities seriously. My (human) children don't stop being my responsibility just because they grow up and move away, nor do my puppies. Mick Well said Mick! I don't understand why people wouldn't either - how anyone can think it's a case of the puppy buyer "porning it back off" (it???) to the breeder makes me physically sick. Shouldn't breeders care about the dogs they have bred? Wouldn't it devastate them to think that they have been mistreated, euthanised, or ended up in the pound? How any breeder can wash their hands of the dogs they bred once they go off to their new homes is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowdog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 sorry not a kc question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid_Wolf Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Smeagle your never gonna like me any ways are you so why comment?its really Like you wanna have an arguement with me. and who said i didnt want anything to do with them once they got ova a year old? I said i take a dog back in under a year old. if your not prepared to look after a dog then why buy 1? And end of day i may try to help them find new owners and help them the best as i could but couldnt take it back in after a year old like i said you dont no how its been brought up do you. And also would you porn your children off if it got to hard for you? if the breeder helped the potential owners learn and made sure they knew as much as they could, there is a much smaller chance of the dog being brought back anyway. its the owners responsibility to make sure all owners have all the info, help and support they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 plus on a unpaperd dog yes it can be proved its a sib by DNA.A AND that will make the sib stronger in direct breed than a sib with papers as the one with papers is only full breed by a indirect DNA off a past sib that has been dnaed tested. and some papers dont iven have that test so you tell me What on earth is this about?????? Any Siberian, papered or not can have a DNA test. The difference between one with papers and one without is that with the unpapered dog you do not have a clue about its pedigree, whether there are any health problems in its bloodlines, whether there are any temperament problems in its bloodlines. In short, you know nothing about the dog other than the fact (if it has been DNA tested) that it is a sibe. Breeding from such a dog is, as I said before, playing Russian Roulette with puppies lives. Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowdog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 No, because I don't agree with breeding unpapered dogs and certainly not just for the sake of it, for a once off just because I can. I don't see why you are so uptight about people being honest in regards to breeding unpapered dogs? You asked if people would breed in your situation and you are getting honest answers back. I wish this had been made clearer in the poll, instead of asking people 'would you breed your dog' if you had instead asked 'should I breed my dog'. I know the poll results would certainly be different. for goodness sake read the heading its not a question of paper or no paper its a moral question over wether you would have alitter from your sibe, stop puching the case of kc in front of me plaese iwelcome your advice and comments that i why i asked for a poll, but will not discuss kc anymore as this is not and never will be an issue with me, i am not uptight maybe frustrated that you just will not understand my question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bec Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Smeagle your never gonna like me any ways are you so why comment?its really Like you wanna have an arguement with me. and who said i didnt want anything to do with them once they got ova a year old? I said i take a dog back in under a year old. if your not prepared to look after a dog then why buy 1? And end of day i may try to help them find new owners and help them the best as i could but couldnt take it back in after a year old like i said you dont no how its been brought up do you. And also would you porn your children off if it got to hard for you? You don't know how it's been bought up? Well, gee, isn't that your responsibility as their breeder, to ensure they have gone to good homes, stayed in contact with your puppy buyers and offered them your support and knowledge and assistance when they need it? If you can't remain responsible for the dogs you breed for their entire lives then you should never breed your dogs. And why did I comment? It's nothing to do with you, I quite frankly don't care who you are. I would have written the exact some post irregardless of who posted your comment because I find that attitude appalling - no matter who said it. Raindog could have written the same thing and I would have responded exactly as I did because I think it's disgusting that a breeder would wash their hands of the puppies they breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koda Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 She commented because this is an open forum for discussion. who said she cant comment? i didnt i said why bother she's never gonna like me anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bec Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 for goodness sake read the heading its not a question of paper or no paper its a moral question over wether you would have alitter from your sibe, stop puching the case of kc in front of me plaese iwelcome your advice and comments that i why i asked for a poll, but will not discuss kc anymore as this is not and never will be an issue with me, i am not uptight maybe frustrated that you just will not understand my question. Your question is: Would you breed from your bitch in my situation? My answer is no: because I don't agree with breeding unpapered dogs; it's not about the KC, for me it is an ethical issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid_Wolf Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 who said she cant comment? i didnt i said why bother she's never gonna like me anyways its not a case of like or not, i got responses like becs when i brought this up from everyone, but i like to think we're all friends now, you have to realise that people have very strong views on this. if you dont want responses like that dont post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowdog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 ok smeagle given your view and your disgust at ppl not having ownership and taking a lifetime care over there pups that they breed, what would you rather some on responsible caring passionate and financially capable of taking on such a responsibility, or a couldnt give a crap, carealess scam the system knobs to you after the pups gone its gone attitude but hey its kc sothat alright, that the only point i will make on kc as this is not my question, and everybody is now ruining the thread i started for simple advice, so thats just great thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowdog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 your question is: Would you breed from your bitch in my situation? My answer is no: Because i don't agree with breeding unpapered dogs; it's not about the kc, for me it is an ethical issue. no no no no no no no, its if you had a sibe and the everything was in place kc or not!!!!!!! Would you thats you!!!!! Niot me!!!!! You!!! would you breed from her!!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh please i cannot say any clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid_Wolf Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 ok smeagle given your view and your disgust at ppl not having ownership and taking a lifetime care over there pups that they breed, what would you rather some on responsible caring passionate and financially capable of taking on such a responsibility, or a couldnt give a crap, carealess scam the system knobs to you after the pups gone its gone attitude but hey its kc sothat alright, that the only point i will make on kc as this is not my question, and everybody is now ruining the thread i started for simple advice, so thats just great thanks. after the replies you got on another thread you should have know the sort of replies you'd get. and this isnt an advice thread, its an opinion thread, so accept everyones opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowdog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Yes ill accept opinions not judgments and kc comments which this is all about!!!! And that is not what i asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bec Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Gotta say this, big sibes little sibes, no matter what they have come from my babies and i would never ever turn one away, i am only having one litter anyway, so if i ended up with ten big sibes still my family, i have built a big area out back which would fit this amount if needed for a time in order to rehome, and yes ive decided deffo now neeko and neo will have pups!! They will definitely have pups? But you haven't even health tested them yet? At the very least get in contact with your local Siberian Husky club and get into contact with some reputable breeders. Find a breed mentor who you can learn from; understand the Siberian Husky breed standard to a T and find someone who can give you a good honest critique of your dogs. Know what to look for in a good Siberian, understand the fine points of conformation so you can learn as much as you can about why the breed is the way it is. Go to some dog shows (even though you can't enter your dogs, you will be able to look at other Siberians) and go to some race days. Live and breath the breed before breeding them so you gain some of the breed knowledge you need to know you really are making the right decision in breeding your dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koda Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 its not a case of like or not, i got responses like becs when i brought this up from everyone, but i like to think we're all friends now, you have to realise that people have very strong views on this. if you dont want responses like that dont post well to be honest im never gonna post another again mate this website is just a place where people bicker and shit, tonobody even talks about it or ask why you think that. people jump the gun and instead of trying to change some1s mind you get shit ova it well there only 1 thing i can say is that SARAH delete my account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowdog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Sid did you read the question in the quote as i asked smeagle a valid question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowdog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 they will definitely have pups? But you haven't even health tested them yet? At the very least get in contact with your local siberian husky club and get into contact with some reputable breeders. Find a breed mentor who you can learn from; understand the siberian husky breed standard to a t and find someone who can give you a good honest critique of your dogs. Know what to look for in a good siberian, understand the fine points of conformation so you can learn as much as you can about why the breed is the way it is. Go to some dog shows (even though you can't enter your dogs, you will be able to look at other siberians) and go to some race days. Live and breath the breed before breeding them so you gain some of the breed knowledge you need to know you really are making the right decision in breeding your dogs. i did say when they are ready they will be tested and if not then i wouldnt go ahead, yawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid_Wolf Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 well to be honest im never gonna post another again mate this website is just a place where people bicker and shit, tonobody even talks about it or ask why you think that. people jump the gun and instead of trying to change some1s mind you get shit ova it well there only 1 thing i can say is that SARAH delete my account ok so your going to leave over one thread, when on any other forum you would get exactly the same responses??? this forum is not about bickering, you clearly havent looked at any other threads.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowdog Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 well to be honest im never gonna post another again mate this website is just a place where people bicker and shit, tonobody even talks about it or ask why you think that. People jump the gun and instead of trying to change some1s mind you get shit ova it well there only 1 thing i can say is that sarah delete my account yeah you know what apart from a handful of people who have been so sincerely nice and honest and helful to me, i dont want to come on here anymore and to tell me not to expect advice wellthanks a bunch for caring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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