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[Huskys At Play]

1 hour ago, robke said:

that is not very nice Angie...when we are camping my relatives do not have a problem with their dog allergies...and best of it is that 1 of my relatives has a dog where he get no allergies from so explain that one...

More information is needed for a question like that. It could be the difference between the coat types. What type of coats do the allergic dogs  have vs the non allergic one? It could be the difference in shampoos used or if a conditioner or even a powder is used. What bathing supplies  are used on the allergic dogs vs the non allergic dog? It could be the amount of times the  dog gets bathed. Does the allergic dogs get bathed less  than the non allergic one? It could be the use of flea/tick products used. Which products are used on the allergic dogs vs non allergic dogs? It could be a multitude of things that could cause this. The fact that when you go camping you are out in the open air also helps since you are not confined in a small space. Has your relative gone to an allergy specialist to be tested? And if so which type of tests have they had? I would be happy to help you investigate this further if you wish. I know several allergy specialists personally that I could consult with. 

[Markie]

I'm sorry@Czar! But I don't know what I've been reserved mean in the UK but he has been reserved so that might make people feel better [emoji2][emoji2]

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[robke]

2 minutes ago, Huskys At Play said:

More information is needed for a question like that. It could be the difference between the coat types. What type of coats do the allergic dogs  have vs the non allergic one? It could be the difference in shampoos used or if a conditioner or even a powder is used. What bathing supplies  are used on the allergic dogs vs the non allergic dog? It could be the amount of times the  dog gets bathed. Does the allergic dogs get bathed less  than the non allergic one? It could be the use of flea/tick products used. Which products are used on the allergic dogs vs non allergic dogs? It could be a multitude of things that could cause this. The fact that when you go camping you are out in the open air also helps since you are not confined in a small space. Has your relative gone to an allergy specialist to be tested? And if so which type of tests have they had? I would be happy to help you investigate this further if you wish. I know several allergy specialists personally that I could consult with. 

Not sure what you want me to say...apart from I am happy that they have these allergies..means I do not see them often which makes me happy...

[ARMANI & ALINAH]

@ROBKE ~ Your comment personally to me above, you talked about camping and your relatives' allergies didn't bother them. Then you asked me, "So explain that one??" I do not understand your question, and what do you want me to explain??

~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~

[robke]

2 minutes ago, ARMANI & ALINAH said:

@ROBKE ~ Your comment personally to me above, you talked about camping and your relatives' allergies didn't bother them. Then you asked me, "So explain that one??" I do not understand your question, and what do you want me to explain??

~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~
 

It is a way of saying... how comes some people have problems with one type of fur and not another type of fur...

[Huskys At Play]

3 minutes ago, robke said:

Not sure what you want me to say...apart from I am happy that they have these allergies..means I do not see them often which makes me happy...

You asked Angie to explain the allergies, and although she cannot, I possibly can with more information. I am offering you the answer you seek but I need more information.

[robke]

Just now, Huskys At Play said:

You asked Angie to explain the allergies, and although she cannot, I possibly can with more information. I am offering you the answer you seek but I need more information.

No I am not asking anybody to explain allergies... 

[Huskys At Play]

1 minute ago, robke said:

No I am not asking anybody to explain allergies... 

Well you clearly asked her to explain your family members situation regarding an allergy to all dogs but one. It sounded like you wanted to know the answer and I was offering my assistance. But I guess you were not asking for help, you were just doing what you accused her of doing. Being mean! I do not think that is nice at all. She has a big heart and really cares for the well being of these dogs. Even when she and I got I a little Tiff, I understood her passion. I knew from the beginning Czar was not going to keep Manny, because it was not the right fit. Everyone encouraged it anyway. I am learning this forum as I am still new here. But I already know that it is just about trying to be pleasant even if you know there is a mistake being made. But you are a moderator (whatever that means) you should hold yourself to a higher standard and not fall into these Tiff's. Don't be mean. You could have easily said you understand her frustration, and ask her to kindly rephrase her words. This does not have to be like this. 

[robke]

the " explain " it to me the way is said it is a way of saying where I am from, does not really mean I want you to explain it...same as you have sayings the might sound strange to us.. 

 

[ARMANI & ALINAH]

My point, what I originally said, in my "not so nice" comment was, he had spent 2days at dogs trust with MANNY, where that would have been the time to NOTICE if he had allergies with ALL that dander floating around, and no allergies happened. Then suddenly he gets MANNY, has him only ONE DAY and suddenly has allergies. (In my opinion, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS "ANY ALLERGIES" for the reasoning of RETURNING the dog.) That was my whole point to get across, which apparently, I cannot explain well enough for anyone to understand.
But as for@ROBKE's question, I was hoping he would rephrase his question, "So explain that one." And I would be more that happy to answer your question ROB but need clarification, that's all. But nevermind, your question has become moot.
Oh well, I've lightly been scolded, feel really bad about my behavior/comments, now embarrassed, and don't feel very welcome on here anymore.
BUT I SURE LIVENED UP HUSKY OWNERS SINCE I JOINED, 28JUNE2017, WITH TONS OF SPUNK, HAPPINESS, LOTS OF LAUGHS & MADE MANY BEAUTIFUL FRIENDS ON HERE...AND DOGGY FRIENDS!!
IT'S ALL COOL!![emoji41][emoji171][emoji92][emoji252]


~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~

[robke]

3 minutes ago, ARMANI & ALINAH said:

My point, what I originally said, in my "not so nice" comment was, he had spent 2days at dogs trust with MANNY, where that would have been the time to NOTICE if he had allergies with ALL that dander floating around, and no allergies happened. Then suddenly he gets MANNY, has him only ONE DAY and suddenly has allergies. (In my opinion, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS "ANY ALLERGIES" for the reasoning of RETURNING the dog.) That was my whole point to get across, which apparently, I cannot explain well enough for anyone to understand.
But as for@ROBKE's question, I was hoping he would rephrase his question, "So explain that one." And I would be more that happy to answer your question ROB but need clarification, that's all. But nevermind, your question has become moot.
Oh well, I've lightly been scolded, feel really bad about my behavior/comments, now embarrassed, and don't feel very welcome on here anymore.
BUT I SURE LIVENED UP HUSKY OWNERS SINCE I JOINED, 28JUNE2017, WITH TONS OF SPUNK, HAPPINESS, LOTS OF LAUGHS & MADE MANY BEAUTIFUL FRIENDS ON HERE...AND DOGGY FRIENDS!!
IT'S ALL COOL!!


~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~
 

that you do not feel welcome anymore is up to you ... and if I have made you feel that way sorry...

[ARMANI & ALINAH]

Thank you @HuskysAtPlay!! First, I'm glad you & I had that tiff!! We both apologized, and bcuz we both have big hearts, we have become friends, sisters...it was gonna happen one way or another!!@ROBKE I know you have a great heart and so does CZAR. His love story with this dog kept getting more & more EXCITING!! Then he FINALLY got the dog HALLELUJAH!! Then he took it back the next day. I think all of us were SHOCKED!!
But like I always say:
[emoji274]*THE SUN ALWAYS SHINES*[emoji274]

~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~

[Huskys At Play]

1 minute ago, robke said:

that you do not feel welcome anymore is up to you ... and if I have made you feel that way sorry...

Of coarse you made her feel that way with your comment. When you say "So explain that one" around here it is the equivalent of calling someone a liar to their face. You insulted her! I am upset by it and you didn't even say it to me. 

[robke]

1 minute ago, Huskys At Play said:

Of coarse you made her feel that way with your comment. When you say "So explain that one" around here it is the equivalent of calling someone a liar to their face. You insulted her! I am upset by it and you didn't even say it to me. 

Am sorry but it is a saying around here...same as you have sayings that are way different to us... Not calling anyone a liar if I did then you would know... and Globally we all have sayings that somewhere in the world are misinterpreted...

[Huskys At Play]

4 minutes ago, robke said:

Am sorry but it is a saying around here...same as you have sayings that are way different to us... Not calling anyone a liar if I did then you would know... and Globally we all have sayings that somewhere in the world are misinterpreted...

Well now that we have that cleared up, I do want to point out that just like your relatives, if Czar was allergic to Manny, it would have shown up during their earlier visits. It don't take long for that to kick in as you know. That being said Czar should have just been honest with us and told the truth. We already know they are not a good match. He was wishy washy about it from the start. Angie being the softie that she is wanted that happy ending and was devastated when it didn't happen. Had Czar told the truth and just said it was not the right fit, it would be more easily accepted than knowing we are being lied to. You all may not be sure but after 30 years in the medical field I know. Now Angie Sweetie!!! Don't let this turn you away! You said what others wished they had the guts to say. I know this is a kind forum and that it should stay that way. But sometimes, when you know you are being lied to, you have to stand up for what's right. Good for you Angie!!! Anyway that's all I have to say. Thank you for the apology @robke I do appreciate that.

[ARMANI & ALINAH]

And...another happy love story for the three of us!! THE HUSKY FAMILY ALWAYS MAKES UP!! I do love an exciting & suspenseful thriller movie!! But I'm just a true romantic at heart!
HUGS & PUPPY LOVE!![emoji8][emoji274][emoji171][emoji252][emoji92]

~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~

[chelseafan]

Not a judgemental comment at all, the reason we are all on this forum is because we all love our fur babies, we sometimes need advice and support but I don’t think it’s helpful to judge anyone who changes their mind about keeping a rescue, isn’t it better that Manny eventually finds his forever home, czar was honest about not keeping Manny and if he can’t live with the allergies then that’s his choice, it’s not the outcome any of us wanted but I’m hopeful Manny will find the right home.



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[Huskys At Play]

17 minutes ago, chelseafan said:

Not a judgemental comment at all, the reason we are all on this forum is because we all love our fur babies, we sometimes need advice and support but I don’t think it’s helpful to judge anyone who changes their mind about keeping a rescue, isn’t it better that Manny eventually finds his forever home, czar was honest about not keeping Manny and if he can’t live with the allergies then that’s his choice, it’s not the outcome any of us wanted but I’m hopeful Manny will find the right home.



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It is good that Manny went back and we do hope that he finds the right forever home for him. I also hope Czar finds the right match for him. Like I said before, I knew from the beginning that a husky was not the right match for him. He will find his forever dog some day and hopefully both will be happy. 

[ARMANI & ALINAH]

@ChelseaFan ~ Oh, I thought...we just had a happy story here that ended & all quieted down...BUT GUESSED WRONG.
*Yes, It is perfectly fine to return a dog. I FULLY SUPPORT THAT (let me say this again for everyone to understand), I FULLY SUPPORT THAT and CZAR's decision.
*What I DO NOT SUPPORT is someone giving a lame made up pathetic excuse as a reason to just give up on the dog (bcuz allergies NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND HE WOULD HAVE ALREADY KNOWN IF HE HAD ALLERGIES BY SPENDING ALL THAT TIME AT DOGS TRUST and with the dog... but then he has the dog for one day (LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN, ONE DAY) and he suddenly develops allergies and doesn't try anything except get rid of the dog).
*I was not judgemental in any way. There is a big difference in being judgmental or "pointing & voicing out a lie and what's really the truth" ... BIG DIFFERENCE!!
*If anything, it sounds like you are judging me and trying to start this whole crap back up! Some people love doing that you know!
*I will no longer tolerate this harassment from ANYONE. I am getting very disappointed in people on this forum. I have already APOLOGIZED, so please reread the comments above. ALSO, PLEASE STOP JUDGING ME...AND STOP BEING SO JUDGMENTAL!! Everyone, just PLEASE "LET IT GO," JUST "LET IT GO" (for Heaven's sake)!!
*Lastly, I will continue to give advice and support TO ALL OF YOU and be a TEAM PLAYER.
*Thank you everyone for all your advice and support to me!! I really appreciate it!! Don't forget to give your furbabies LOVE, HUGS & KISSES!!
HAVE A WONDERFUL NIGHT EVERYONE.

~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~

P.S. Make sure you all HIT the LIKE BUTTON on my comment here!! Because I know how supportive you all are!! Thanks in advance!!
MWAH[emoji182]

~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~

[ARMANI & ALINAH]

P.S.S. I know what's wrong... it's still a FULL MOON!! So doggies, OZZY says,
*BARK AT THE MOON*!!
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~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~

[Marc]

Can I just point out here that there is some real confusion with allergies, and with wording. First of all, allergies can be worse for some people than they are for others. No matter how much you like the dog, no matter how much you want to rescue, no matter what the situation, if you have a bad allergic reaction then you would have little choice. I too would question, if the dog had been there a few weeks and then decided to take them back, but that isn't what has happened here. I can tell you 100% that if you don't understand this, then you likely have never had a bad allergy to anything.

Case in point here. I have an allergy to dogs in general. Which sounds ridiculous given that we have 3 huskies. If I have been stroking them for a long while, then I have to wash my hands and ensure my hand don't go anywhere near my face. This however is with my own dogs, and not with others. For some reason I don't react the same with huskies as I do with a lot of other dogs. Some peoples houses who have dogs, which are very cleanly kept, I simply cannot breath in. I end up with bad asthma problems. In that situation, I would not even be able to walk that dog, at all, and would likely end up in hospital. In my opinion, keeping a dog under those circumstances would be cruel to the dog. People do not know the extent of the issue, and should not be quick to judge.

Secondly, please bear in mind that we are from all over the world. There will be times where there are a cross over in language. Robs "so explain that one" would be taken as "hehe go figure", or "ironic that isn't it?" or even "I cant explain why some people are allergic to some dogs and not others". Rob clearly stated after the very first reply to this, that it was a figure of speech and not something that was a literal question. 

Lastly, Angie. For some reason you feel like you were judged for your comments. You seemed to miss that your comments were judged in the same manner as you judged someone elses. Rob is simply trying to ask people to be a little more friendly. That is what this forum is for. We are a forum built by husky owners, for husky owners. Not a breeding site, not a rehoming site, but a site for people to meet other individuals who have huskies, share experiences, and occasionally meet. There are enough husky forums around where people judge others for their actions. Thats not what we were built upon.

PS:- Just a pet hate, but thought I would mention. I've been reading since about 5, which would give me 33 years experience to date. I'm almost 99% certain I can read without capital letters where they don't belong.

[ARMANI & ALINAH]

@MARC ~ Thanks for the invaluable information, advice & dislikes.
I understand allergies quite well. I have them and they are horrible.
I use capitals letters for expression good and bad. I'll check to make sure my CAPS button isn't stuck LOL!
I clearly understand everything you said and will try to improve me in the future.
Thank you!!

~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~

[ARMANI & ALINAH]

@ChelseaFan ~ I wanted to personally apologize to you for my reply back to you last night. You did not deserve my words at all. You deserve much better!! I was totally in the wrong to you and CZAR.
I am truly sorry to you for my behavior.
Have a wonderful day![emoji8][emoji171][emoji92]

~ANGIE, ARMANI & ALINAH~

[chelseafan]

Thanks Angie, no need. Let’s just move on from this and get back to normal.


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[Luna-tic]

Just read all this thread. I don’t know if Czar will be back but just in case here’s my two pennorth. When I took Luna I told my daughter she wasn’t my kind of dog but I couldn’t in all conscience leave her where she was because she looked depressed and I was sad for her. Sad even because someone who’d had her from a 5 month old puppy could 6 years later want to move her on, just like my previous border collie who again I agreed to take because I was sure I could offer him a better home. Within two days of taking Luna I regretted it, I hadn’t really researched huskies and hadn’t realised all the little foibles they have. I even emailed a husky rescue for advice and they were very helpful and were willing to take her if I decided to give her up. Well, after a few more days I realised I couldn’t hand her back, she’d already grown on me, she is such a handsome girl. We’ve come a long way in 3 months, most of my experiences are positive but there are still a few negatives which I may not be able to change but which I accept come with the dog. I’ve realised that she has had some training, she can be quite obedient, she wants to chase every squirrel she sees or senses and dig up every mole she smells! She has pretty good recall but only when she wants not always when I do. She is so sociable with other dogs, no nastiness, just wants to play. I have broken the rules, I let her off leash in the field, she runs off but doesn’t go far and mostly comes when I whistle. I really love this dog. Her separation anxiety is pretty much gone, no soiling indoors now, no panting when we come home etc. The very expensive dog flap is worth every penny, she lets herself in and out and spends quite a lot of time just laying outside.

 

The downsides aren’t many, I’m sad that she isn’t affectionate, no husky kisses, no coming over for a pet or a love, often ignores me when I’m sitting stroking or tickling her. She enjoys it but lies with closed eyes and doesn’t ask for more when I stop, oh well. I do get some woo wooing in the morning and some paw throwing so maybe she likes me a bit. I'm hoping that given time she may warm to me and show some affection but if she doesn’t well I don’t mind because as long as she’s happy then I’m happy too. She is learning to accept my cats, one is happy to just treat her like she’s no problem and the other is making progress, still nervous but doesn’t run so readily. Even more curious, Luna takes little interest in my hens and even the one that is completely stupid and keeps coming into the garden where she is doesn’t spark a reaction, I’m amazed.

 

So, I don’t blame Czar for not keeping Manny, better he gave him up sooner rather than later but I do feel he’s missed out on having a really lovely breed. I don’t doubt him when he says he had an allergic reaction, I have a daughter with asthma who is allergic to dogs and cats, it can be life threatening so better the dog finds a home to be happy in and not one where he may have killed his owner! I’m sure Manny will find a new home, he’s reserved again already.

 

 

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