atcheyy Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 My husky, Mya, is going to be one year old in February. She has a very noticable lazy eye. Sometimes people assume she is cross-eyed but it is just her left eye which looks to the right. It is often one of the first things people notice. She is AKC registered and my vet has never expressed concerns for the eye. I am concerned that the lazy eye could have something to do with her genetics. And we were hoping to get a litter out of her next year, but I worry people won't want their studs to breed with Mya because of it. Should I be worried, or seek a second veterinary opinion? Sorry I'm pushing one of her ears down in the picture, I was petting her so she would stare at the camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Hi there. . I'd be inclined to ask for a second opinion as although it could be a lazy eye, it could also be a sign of other things happening within the eye and head area. Breeders get their dams and sires hip and eye scored, and usually show and/or work their dogs to ensure that their dog has all the desirable characteristics necessary to better the breed. I think you're supposed to get the rights to breed from your breeder too, personally I've never been a breeder so I don't know the ins and outs of it but I'd say an eye disorder that could be genetic is a big no-no on that idea. Take care, I hope you find out what it is and that she's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmscott Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 · Hidden Hidden How do you feel this dog contributes to the Siberian Husky as a breed? AKC or any other registry mean nothing more that the dogs parent belong to ____ breed. Is she a working dog? Has she been tested for hereditary problems that might be passed on? Does she have proper structure that will ensure the puppies live long, pain-free lives and has that structure been evaluated by a breed specialty judge to affirm that quality? In short, do you think that you have an exceptionally qualified dog that will give the world extra special puppies? Off hand, I'd say that looks like ectropion...A genetic disorder usually inherited from one or both parents.It is the same disorder that gives basset hounds the droopy eyes. Link to comment
jmscott Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 · Hidden Hidden Something else to consider. All the time when I see pets being bred, the owners often say that they wanted a puppy just like mom/dad... genetics are a gamble no matter what dog you are breeding, You might end up with the sweet mother or you could end up with the grandsire who bit three kids and was quietly buried in the backyard. Link to comment
HuskyMom09 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 · Hidden Hidden It looks like Ectropion, which is an outward rolling or sagging eye lid, that is hereditary. That in itself, to me, would be enough not to breed her. The eyes are an important aspect of the nordic phenotype that is the Siberian Husky. Eyes should be almond shaped and obliquely set. I second Jaimie in what is your ultimate goal behind breeding her? What does she have to offer back to the Siberian Husky breed? As a breeder you should be a steward of the breed, understanding of the breed's original form and function, breeding to better the breed...and breeding genetically healthy stock. Given that, any breeding candidate needs to be OFA certified to Excellent or Good to be sure she is not dysplastic, and annual passing CERF exams for the eye health. Our breed does still have potential problems with hips, an important part of a working dog- and Glaucoma, Corneal Dystrophy, Cataracts are still issues throughout the breed. Your girl at minimum needs to see a ACVO vet (Veterinary Ophthalmologist) and have that lid evaluated.... Link to comment
Marc Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 And we were hoping to get a litter out of her next year.......... I wouldnt expect to get any nice responses from this on here. You are asking opinions of whether the stud owners would want her, I can tell you now if I was one I would be saying no instantly. She is a lovely dog however genetics is really quite simple when you get to the very basics of it. If any animal, person, plant etc is born with a specific trate then there is possibility this could be passed down to the offspring. Its really that simple. If you even need to ask these questions, you should not be breeding. You simply do not know enough and its irresponsible. Im sorry that sounds harsh, but its true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazz Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Not sure why no one has done so yet, but welcome to Husky Owners. While I agree with the concept of not breeding if there is a genetic fault, I would recommend having your vet diagnose the issue. Barring that, or if a diagnosis is a hereditary fault, then I would opt to have her spayed. Aside from that, if you really wish to breed her, and there is no hereditary fault, then I would encourage you to have the hips and eyes scored, to minimize hereditary issues with hips and eyes. These are extremely important tests, especially for Siberian Huskies. I would also determine if she was an excellent example when compared to the breed standard. This will require getting opinions from persons well-versed with the breed standard, such as well-qualified dog judges, reputable breeders, veterinarians. The last thing you want to do as a reputable breeder is to pass on sub-standard traits or genetic defects. But first things first. Get your dog checked at the vet to determine what's going on with her eye. Once you have that determined, then you can begin to make informed decisions that are both rational and wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atcheyy Posted January 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Sorry to have offended anyone. I don't want to be a breeder, or sell her puppies. We wanted them for our family.. I was not only concerned that studs wouldn't want her. My main concern is that she could have genetic problems affecting her health. I asked if I should be worried because my husband thinks it's nothing. Thank you for recommending I get a second vets opinion. Sorry to have alarmed or offended anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyMom09 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 · Hidden Hidden As I stated before you'll need to find an ACVO veterinarian. Not just a general practice veterinarian. To me it looks like Ectropion which is hereditary. Since it affects the overall shape of the eye and doesn't offer proper protection to the eye it is not something you should breed. There is a lot more to breeding than 'just because', though you'll likely be able to find someone just looking for a stud fee to breed her- I encourage you to learn more about being a responsible breeder before you make any decisions, this includes understanding why even the 'little' things are important when choosing not only your breeding candidates but also what to look for in a stud so you aren't doubling up on faults or hereditary disorders. Link to comment
jmscott Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 · Hidden Hidden Even breeding for family makes a breeder. Most breeders refuse to give puppies to family because contrary to how much you may love them, 9/10 times they are the WORST homes for the pups. I have 1 person in my family that I would even consider selling to. All the others are blacklisted and will never own an Origin Siberian. Link to comment
mydiamond Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 Sorry to have offended anyone. I don't want to be a breeder, or sell her puppies. We wanted them for our family.. I was not only concerned that studs wouldn't want her. My main concern is that she could have genetic problems affecting her health. I asked if I should be worried because my husband thinks it's nothing. Thank you for recommending I get a second vets opinion. Sorry to have alarmed or offended anyone. Hey Ashley welcome to H-O I'm sure no one is feeling offended or trying to attack you... it's just that this is the cyber world, which means it's rather hard to be too careful. Those comments above are, I'm sure, just a general reminder as a precaution to anyone that wants to breed for any reason. However more often than not, you will find that people here discourage breeding. Why? Because, to put it simply, breeding is tricky. A lot can go wrong, and when something DOES go wrong the pups will have to pay the price Personally I would leave breeding with those professional, ethical breeders who really know what they're doing. Us pet owners, in my opinion, should just enjoy our pets and let them be... well, pets. Now about your baby's eye condition. I'll be straight with you; I've never seen anything like it before. But Jaimie and Lani identified it as a hereditary problem. Considering how our breed is prone to eye problems, I would strongly recommend you to not breed her. Not because she can't produce pups that will contribute to the Siberian Husky breed, but simply because it's risky. Maybe that condition is not affecting Mya in any ways, but who knows what will happen to her pups? I personally think it's a little too cruel for her puppies since breeding a dog with visible issues is basically gambling with the puppies' lives I'm sorry if I sound too harsh, but I really hope you'd spend a minute to take a step back and re-think your decision. If you want puppies, you can always either adopt or purchase from a responsible breeder. I'm sure all of us here would also be very glad to guide you on training and raising that pup xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 As I stated before you'll need to find an ACVO veterinarian. Not just a general practice veterinarian. Why? Not sarsasm, I honestly don't know and curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robke Posted January 3, 2014 Report Share Posted January 3, 2014 It is an ophthalmologist I just call them eye doctors.... http://www.acvo.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyMom09 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 · Hidden Hidden Why? Not sarsasm, I honestly don't know and curious As Rob pointed out ACVO are American College Veterinary Ophthalmologists which means they are eye specialists and are more equipped to identify issues like this vs your general practice vets are. I figure since the OP is US might as well send her looking for the specific veterinarian she needs to seek out- I'd also suggest getting the CERF exam at in the same visit. Link to comment
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