BooShee Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 Hello folks, I have two siblings/same litter, male and female, that the female has developed a condition that the veterinarians seem to not fully want to identify or know what to do? Most I got was possible allergy or immune problem. For those more interested I posted a relatively long message at the bottom that I typed up for other online vets to hopefully comment on from experience. But I posted this here thinking who better to ask than a owner`s group? Basically, 2 months ago my female, 8 yrs old, 85 lbs, first developed tearing right eye, lesions at the nose, lip, and sores on back end and tail. In the course of the 2 months of multiple vets and biopsies (non cancer), and last two of three weeks of steroid and antibiotics, some lesions and sores have dissipated, BUT many more sores are popping up. The sores are most prevalent. Dime to half dollar sized pink to red sores on the tail, back, torso, arms and paws (bit scary looking). Mostly arms and paws. Since this is supposedly prevalent in Huskies. Anyone??? have any experience with this type of condition? I posted here instead of the health thread in hopes that more owners can eyeball this and may contribute there experience. Thanks for reading, PEACE Letter To Online Vet: Hello, I have two brother/sister, same litter, Husky/Sheppard dogs. They are 8.5 years old. About two months ago I noticed the female started having her right eye tear more than normal and I noticed a sore spot on top of her back end above her tail. Plus, a small pimple sized red spot formed just below her nose, above her front lip. Since they both were due for their annual check up we made an appointment for the vet. When she was looked at we found another large sore spot on her tail (1” x 2”). Our vet at the time said one has nothing to do with the other. The sore spot was a staff infection and the eye, upon her further examination, might be a Panus disease that she recommended we see an ophthalmologist for dogs. The red pimple lesion below her nose is a peculiar place to be and does not know what it is, but we might want to consider biopsies done. She said we could wait a bit to see what happens. We went home, made the appointment for the ophthalmologist far away in 3 weeks or so. In short time the pimple below her nose became a bit larger and we decided to do a biopsy. All of a sudden our vet said she is not comfortable in do it and to have the group far away do it when they check the eye. But they could not for several months as it requires a different vet. So we found a third vet an hour away and made a consultation appointment for about a week later. All this while my dog started having blister type lesions on her left lip (1/16” -1/8” dia). Finally get to the third vet and he say the same thing. Doesn`t know what this is. Can not recommend what to do but is ok if we do a biopsy or simply wait to see what happens. In just another couple days we notice more blisters on the lip and more sore spots on her body, thought we need to do the biopsies. Made an appointment for the last vet for four weeks later, but in just one week we had the appointment for the ophthalmologist which we went to. All the while more sore spots, more blisters on lips, the pimple below nose seems to inflame so mush then stopped (about 1/8” oval shaped). The ophthalmologist looked at everything and thought way too much coincidence for all this stuff and we should have a biopsy. Said she can have her office do it in two days. So we did. A week later we get the results. The nose was described as “Severe eosinophilic and pyogranulomatous and pustular nasal dermatitis. The lip description as “Severe eosinophilic and pyogranulomatous cheilitis. And a small lesion by her eye as “Mild eosinophilic and neutrophilic conjunctivitis. The comments of the pathologist are: “There are similar findings in the nose and lip lesions, which is a reaction pattern of multifactorial etiology, but a hypersensitivity reaction is suspected, and in some cases an adverse drug reaction has been identified. This is a common lesion in Huskies and may respond to corticosteroids. The conjunctival lesion is suggestive of an allergic/hypersensitivity conjunctivitis. The differential diagnosis includes mechanical irritation (including due to foreign material or an anatomical predisposition) and chronic bacterial infection, or parasitism. The scarcity of neutrophils and failure to visualize bacteria in this section suggests primary bacterial infection is unlikely. A specific allergen is rarely identified in cases of presumed allergic conjunctivitis. Similar to allergic skin diseases, the diagnosis is based on the failure to demonstrate infectious or mechanical causes, response to corticosteroid therapy, and sometimes a convincing association with environmental changes.” END QUOTES So from all this we started with a forth vet (our old one had no answers, nor seemed to want to be bothered), and he started our dog on Prednisone for 3 weeks and Cephalexin for 3 weeks. Been two weeks now and her nose is very much doing better. Lip is doing better. And some of the sore spots seems to be healing a bit. But, she continues to get other sore spots on her paws, arms, and body. Plus a few new small blisters on her lips. We have a follow up appointment with our vet in another week when the medications are complete, but we wonder, if the medications are help clearing up areas on her, why are there new sores and lesions surfacing? All our hope is we finally contact a veterinarian that can identify these issues and have some experience with what to do to clear it up, not to mention what caused it? Sorry for the long message, but I simply thought it might be worth a try to see if there might be something you can suggest in reference to what all this might be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 Do you have any pictures ? Has she been tested for allergies ? Sent from my [device_name] using http://Husky Owners mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Huskyfun Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 Welcome. It sounds like just a whole lot of different stuff going on. Never personally gone through this. Sorry. I would just keep going to vets until someone can confirm something. My gut is going with a serious allergic reaction to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 Could the underlying cause be due to zinc deficiency? The more zinc deficient the more problematic the health issues will be. Vets for some reason don’t know enough about ZRD and people have spent hundreds of pounds on test after test to be no wiser as to the cause of their dogs illness. ZRD can cause skin conditions, immune system related illnesses, lesions, digestive problems etc, it has been called The Silent Killer. I hope you find out what’s causing this.Sent from my iPad using Husky Owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooShee Posted November 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, BingBlaze n Skyla said: Do you have any pictures ? Has she been tested for allergies ? Sent from my [device_name] using http://Husky Owners mobile app This sore occurred today on her rear leg. Most of her sores are not this red. We are not exactly sure how much of the cause is from licking? I have read the cause actually is from licking. We do not catch her licking that often and do not let her when we can. We bandage when we can, but it lasts for only so long over night. Tomorrow is another call to the vet in hopes to get better answers. I`ll post new info as I get it for those interested. Still hoping a member here has heard of this type of issue. Peace Oh, no tests for allergies yet. But as far as the nearest allergist is, we are looking into it. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 I would definitely look into getting her tested for allergies huskies can be quite prone to them specially with grains and sometimes chicken too , i would also look into zinc deficiency as huskies can also be prone to this and not many vets know much about it Sent from my [device_name] using http://Husky Owners mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Huskyfun Posted November 11, 2018 Report Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, BingBlaze n Skyla said: I would definitely look into getting her tested for allergies huskies can be quite prone to them specially with grains and sometimes chicken too , i would also look into zinc deficiency as huskies can also be prone to this and not many vets know much about it Sent from my [device_name] using http://Husky Owners mobile app I agree! The first test I would want is allergies and zinc. If there is licking, have you tried Bitter Apple? Worked great on mine until I was able to get them tested. And.... it was due to chicken and grains and grass. Do you have pics of her face, ears, under her chin, or paws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepsky5 Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 Ouch, poor girl... that looks painful. I hope you find out what it is!! I wonder if there is a veterinary school / research center kind of place near you...for more answers. and at 8.5 years, if the allergies are popping up now...has anything changed in her diet / environment recently, that you can think of? I do agree that if she is taking a corticosteroid, things should be really calming down...it’s weird that new lesions would appear. 😞. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan Posted November 12, 2018 Report Share Posted November 12, 2018 I’d apply some Nutrazinc to the sores, it might help.Sent from my iPad using Husky Owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooShee Posted November 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Geez, this morning I typed up a long additional message that got lost with the images I tried to post. I`ll give it a go to repost my thoughts now. Shorter version. Thank you for any thoughts you all have. I have been researching ZINC to the point that I got my vet to draw some blood today to test for it, just to see what the level is. Monashee has been on antibiotics and steroids for just over two weeks with one week to go. At first it seems like things were going ok. The initial lesions pictured, on the nose and lip pretty much cleared up. But during the second week other sore spots popped up. Now on and in her ears, snout, face, arms, etc.... And I believe because of the steroids, she is panting heavy most of the time and lethargic. Vet thinks because the steroids are not fully working it may be a immune issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markulous Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 Does look painful/uncomfortable for her. Have to say that it doesn't present as ZRD (zinc deficiency) as ZRD tends to be more scabby/crusty but probably worth pursuing, though blood tests are no good as only apparent from a skin scrape (plus needs to go to a lab that knows what to look for). If you're on Facebook, worth joining ZRD in sled dogs as there's plenty of advice/knowledgable people there. Whatever the diagnosis, I hope she gets better soon, poor girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan Posted November 13, 2018 Report Share Posted November 13, 2018 The more deficient of zinc a dog is the more health conditions they will experience and one of those is immune system related conditions. Sent from my iPhone using Husky Owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooShee Posted November 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 On 11/13/2018 at 6:17 AM, Markulous said: Does look painful/uncomfortable for her. Have to say that it doesn't present as ZRD (zinc deficiency) as ZRD tends to be more scabby/crusty but probably worth pursuing, though blood tests are no good as only apparent from a skin scrape (plus needs to go to a lab that knows what to look for). If you're on Facebook, worth joining ZRD in sled dogs as there's plenty of advice/knowledgable people there. Whatever the diagnosis, I hope she gets better soon, poor girl Thank you for the link and everyone`s feedback. Though I am not on Facebook I am able to read others info which I am trying to apply. Though I did not get a copy yet of some new blood work, vet said her zinc level looks ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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