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When my doggo was a very little pup I made it a goal to get him used to tail touching. By gentle tugs and grabs and petting. He is perfectly ok with touching from anywhere now unless I'm trying to brush his belly and lower sides. What I want to know is if that is an ok thing to do? I did pull him back by it only once in panic when he tried to make a run for it out the front door and I heard a soft pop and and felt bad (though he showed no discomfert or annoyence from it) decided never to do it again but that was almost 2 years ago.

 

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I personally wouldn't pull their tail but doesn't look like you've done any harm and once I was getting ready to walk them and I noticed the front door hadn't shut properly but Blaze did lol he went to open it and he would have bolted so i did what any one would do and grab the dog , first thing I managed to grab was his tail but didn't have to actually pull it just stopped him in his tracks so I could get the door shut

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My male ARMANI does this harmless growl if I brush too close around his privates, inner flanks (oops!). He lets me know if I accidentally get too close, which I totally respect him. But then we have a little growling match...he actually starts this singing growl. So I sing & growl back at him, and he loves every bit of the attention!!


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I had to grab one of mine quickly to stop him running off and it was by the tail, it wasn’t a pull and no damage was done. I’ve done a little bit of research lately about damage to tails and how it affects them, much more than I realised. I watch my 2 playing and grabbing and biting each other’s tails and they never seem to cause any damage to each other, thankfully, but they really get rough yanking them around.


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i work at a 'free range' type dog camp and have broken up my fair share of fights. if its a dog that i do not trust enough, especially to turn around and nip me in the heat of the moment, i often pull the offender away by the base of the tail. i avoid pulling near the tip, i try to not go lower than 50% of the tail. i feel the end is weaker and more susceptible to dislocations or fractures (especially because i am pulling with force and not just stopping the dog in its track.) i have never physically hurt a dog from what i can tell. we always do a full assessment of the dogs after a fight and i make sure to check the tail, they have never seemed bothered by it.

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ALINAH pulls ARMANI's tail ALL the time. I try to get her to stop, but she doesn't listen. I worry that ARMANI will lose fur where his tail connects at the base. It's all in play, of course, but I'd hate for him to lose fur on his tail. (All the neighbors probably hear me saying, "ALINAH, stop biting ARMANI's tail!!") I can't get it to stop. Then they both bite each other's legs, etc. I hope it's ok they play rough like that because I don't want them getting hurt.


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dogs pulling tails is something different then when we hoomans do it... Alpha is a tail puller done it since day 1 and when he puls a dogs tail where that dog does not like it they soon let him know this...LOLOL  all part of rough play...

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I didn’t realise until recently that the muscles at the base of the tail help with emptying the bowels and bladder, if they’re damaged it can cause temporary or permanent incontinence or constipation. How careful we need to be.


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I didn’t realise until recently that the muscles at the base of the tail help with emptying the bowels and bladder, if they’re damaged it can cause temporary or permanent incontinence or constipation. How careful we need to be.


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agreed! i forgot to say in my post that i definately dont do it to my dog (or any dog) unless its absolutely necessary to break up a fight. sometimes you cant avoid it in that moment. a good alternative for a runaway dog (if you can reach) is to grab the front of the hind legs like the waist/belly area. -also the safest way to break up a fight lol.

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I think most dog owners have done it because the dogs just about to boot out the door and the closest part of the dog is the tail...
... I think its fine to show a dog its ok for you to touch them amd for them to trust you. I can touch my pup all over, anywhere and she wont bother.. I dont think she really got a choice as I have a 2 yr old child and since I brought my pup back at 8 weeks my child has always been all over her touching her they have a good relationship and Khaleesi doesnt mind any of her being touched because she’s so used to having a 2 yr old all over her and she loves it haha


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agreed! i forgot to say in my post that i definately dont do it to my dog (or any dog) unless its absolutely necessary to break up a fight. sometimes you cant avoid it in that moment. a good alternative for a runaway dog (if you can reach) is to grab the front of the hind legs like the waist/belly area. -also the safest way to break up a fight lol.

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Apologies if you thought I was alluding to you, I wasn’t, what I meant to say is that the tails serve an important purpose and I’ve grabbed the tail myself, not intentionally trying to hurt them but to stop them escaping. What prompted my research into the importance of the tails is Czar’s post about Manny, his tail issue and not pooping and I’ve since found out that there is a correlation between the two.
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Apologies if you thought I was alluding to you, I wasn’t, what I meant to say is that the tails serve an important purpose and I’ve grabbed the tail myself, not intentionally trying to hurt them but to stop them escaping. What prompted my research into the importance of the tails is Czar’s post about Manny, his tail issue and not pooping and I’ve since found out that there is a correlation between the two.
no no! not at all i actually didnt even realize i 'quoted' your post until after i posted (my phone is very screwy with this app). it just made me think about how my first post sort of came off as pro-tail pulling. where i definately would not advocate it for regular basis thing. so no apologies necessary!

i did not know there was the pooping connection though. i will definately be more carefull about it in the future, now that i know that

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I don’t know whether that’s the case for Manny, I think my sons are fed up of me telling them to be careful with their tails since I’ve read about them.


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That is good to know about the correlation. I always thought their tails were for balance, etc. I'll have to get ALINAH to read this!!


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P.S. @BingBlaze n Skyla ~ LOVE your photo!! That's better that SKYLA is chewing the chair than BLAZE's tail!!


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That is good to know about the correlation. I always thought their tails were for balance, etc. I'll have to get ALINAH to read this!!


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P.S. @BingBlaze n Skyla ~ LOVE your photo!! That's better that SKYLA is chewing the chair than BLAZE's tail!!


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I dont think thats a chair Angie, its Bings’s leg ( over rainbow bridge sadly) - am I right Nix?

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That is good to know about the correlation. I always thought their tails were for balance, etc. I'll have to get ALINAH to read this!!


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P.S. @BingBlaze n Skyla ~ LOVE your photo!! That's better that SKYLA is chewing the chair than BLAZE's tail!!


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I dont think thats a chair Angie, its Bings’s leg ( over rainbow bridge sadly) - am I right Nix?
Yeah she grabbed Bings tail lol she was a little terror with him , but then he was just as bad they were best friends
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@BingBlaze n Skyla ~ Oh my gosh, I am so so sorry. I did not look at the photo close enough on my phone and thought it was a wicker chair. I'm really sorry for that huge error and feel so bad!! I've never seen BING Baby before but knew is was in Heaven. He was a beautiful, handsome boy. (Hopefully BING and my Samoyed/Chow APOLLO have met on the Rainbow Bridge.)@JO ~ Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention!!


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@BingBlaze n Skyla ~ Oh my gosh, I am so so sorry. I did not look at the photo close enough on my phone and thought it was a wicker chair. I'm really sorry for that huge error and feel so bad!! I've never seen BING Baby before but knew is was in Heaven. He was a beautiful, handsome boy. (Hopefully BING and my Samoyed/Chow APOLLO have met on the Rainbow Bridge.)[mention=14408]JO[/mention] ~ Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention!!


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Don't worry about it that's the first time he's been mistaken for a chair tho lol ;)
I'm sure they will have , if I know my Bings he'll be barking constantly until Apollo chases him n they'll play for hours

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