scott Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 for both cases i would recommend bringing the dogs to a small island overrun by huskies and leave them there, no need for collars or leads unless there running lol lol lol lol lol lol hint hint send them to me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted January 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 lmao scott - eh ............... neh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siberian_wolf Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 well done nix sounds like you are on the right path Its great to hear that Allen is helping you as much as possible and like Allen said, you have seen how calm and well behaved Blaze be and it was down to your efforts so you know it can be done. I know how hard it is to keep calm, especially when you wake up in the morning and feel like you are starting from square one all over again but that is how progress is made Keep thinking positive thoughts. Try thinking how great it will be when you have respect from Blaze and how proud you will fell when everyone at the meet ups see's Blaze well behaved at your side and it will all be down to the hard work you put in Keep it up and keep us updated, you CAN do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emo kid Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 well how about wen he is jumpin up ppl pull him down and line his lead down his bk and tell him to sit at the same time , or how about tellin him to sit and wen he has sat down tell him to stay (or the commands u use) wen he has done it give him a treat so he knows wen he has done as he is told he gets priazes 4 it and DONT give him treats 4 NO reason because he will think he dont need to do it 4 a treat be firm with him but keep calm beacause he will pick up on that good luck ! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 well how about wen he is jumpin up ppl pull him down and line his lead down his bk and tell him to sit at the same time , or how about tellin him to sit and wen he has sat down tell him to stay (or the commands u use) wen he has done it give him a treat so he knows wen he has done as he is told he gets priazes 4 it and DONT give him treats 4 NO reason because he will think he dont need to do it 4 a treat . added to rep I think using treats - if he is the sort of dog that is food motivated would help a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 hes not food orientated tho and im gettin a rly short lead for him 2 limit his freedom so wont b able 2 pull it down over his bk 2 make him sit but when ive bin wlkin him on a short lead hes not bin jumpin at ppl anyway - and the only time he gets a treat is after a walk and sumtimes he wont even bother with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 makes it a bit more difficult, but still ways around it. His prob seems to be with other dogs, and when we met up yesterday he was very aggressive towards my two and even you Nix, this is something you've got to nip in the bud NOW before he snaps at you or someone else or a child. Try some focus work with him - if using treats, don't feed him in the morning then when you train him, use what would have been his food as treats as he's hungry, he should be more receptive to listening to your commands more. What's he like at home - if say he jumps on your bed but you dont want him there and you tell him to get down for example does he listen or think yeah yeah in a bit Respect needs to be taught in the home as well as on walks, to some extent like kids - you would expect them to use please and thank you when out at school or whatever, but also expect that same courtesy at home as well. Same with dogs, if i ask my boys to leave something eg if a piece of chicken fell on the floor i would expect them to, same as i would out on a walk (not that they lkisten to me much outside though lol but still working on that one sigh) - there are more distractions in the big wide world for them so starting at home is a really good base point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 with the dog stuff im thinkin it might b when he was a pup goin thru a fear stage he had a labrador run at him n hes had another couple ov labs run at him since and hes had a husky and a huskamute go for him aswell and i think thats y he got worked up with ur two (still soooooooo sorry about that) and went for me (tho i hadnt realised he had) tho when i tried 2 get him in from the garden away from digging under the fence 2 get 2 next doors bitch he tried 2 go for me then so i gave him a firm NO and made him go in, with the regards 2 if hes on my bed or such its 50/50 sumtimes he will listen others he wont hes bin doin rly well on walks l8ly tho he sits at every road sumtimes i need 2 tell him twice n gently make him doin it but he listens 2 my command 2 cross the road n not allen (we use diff commands) and sumtimes i can even have him walkin next 2 me nicely n not b jumpin at ppl so it is more a problem with dogs i think i dont think his age helps either as hes in the moody teenager stage - not that im sayin thats an excuse for his behaviour also he doesnt get 2 socialise with other dogs much other than bing n pagan as most ppl see a dog that looks like a wolf n run a mile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Dont worry about him going at mine, you removed him from the situation which was the right thing to do You need to learn to dive so you can come on more meets :D Will give you the heads up next time we're down and he can socialise with my two all he wants, I think the more dogs he meets the better - but i'd make sure you trust the dogs and the owners that he meets - ideally, you want him to meet a calm dog, so say with my 2 - i'd introduce him to Kimba but not Kaiser as he's just a fruit loop and would antagonise him more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Dont worry about him going at mine, you removed him from the situation which was the right thing to do You need to learn to dive so you can come on more meets Will give you the heads up next time we're down and he can socialise with my two all he wants, I think the more dogs he meets the better - but i'd make sure you trust the dogs and the owners that he meets - ideally, you want him to meet a calm dog, so say with my 2 - i'd introduce him to Kimba but not Kaiser as he's just a fruit loop and would antagonise him more thnx saz glad im doin the right thing lol yeah wud love 2 actually get him socialising - but i dont no many ppl with dogs and those u do see give u a wide berth when ur out walking - yeah let me no when ur next down im rly workin my ass off atm with him and on walks hes bein rly good like i sed i can have him wlkin next 2 me for abit n i can have him sittin at roads n w8in for my command 2 b realesed and can tell him on by past ppl and he wont jump up he even saw a cat earlier n didnt go mad like he normally would so that part ov the trainings working i just need 2 push him and myself abit more but if we cud actually get him not wantin 2 eat other dogs wud b great he was fine for the most part over the feild with them both then he just started grumbling agen - dunno y tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 That's great Just keep going, baby steps all mount up Will let you know next time we're down x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 thnx saz im gonna start a training diary so i can write down all the advice im being given n all the training im doing and how im progressing and what i need 2 revise on so i can look back thru it n see if i can do summn different to make him and me better and when im feelin down i can read back thru n see how well hes been doin 2 perk me up abit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkyries Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 if your going to do a diary nix also try a video diary if you can get emo or Allen to follow you and record, you will be able to see any improvement or where your going right or wrong. just a thought good luck you can do it xxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 that's a great idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkyries Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 lol sarah i don't have em often xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 that is a good idea i wud get allen 2 do it (as caprice doesnt rly come on our walks anymore) but i wud b afraid bout feelin and soundin silly on the vid lol - stupid i no but i rekon i wud just clam up n not b able 2 do it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkyries Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 but the video is for your eyes only hun and he will be following you, it's just to see your actions, he wont be close inuf to hear what you sayin lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I think the vid is great hun, you can watch it back on your own or with your mum / dad and all work together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 lol ill ask him (or he will probs read this b4 i speak 2 him 2moz) and ill see what he thinks thnx linda +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siberian_wolf Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I think the video would be a great idea Nix just a quick question but what's your routine at feeding time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bec Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 hes not food orientated tho and im gettin a rly short lead for him 2 limit his freedom so wont b able 2 pull it down over his bk 2 make him sit but when ive bin wlkin him on a short lead hes not bin jumpin at ppl anyway - and the only time he gets a treat is after a walk and sumtimes he wont even bother with it Does he like food when you are at home? What if you are using cooked meat like chicken, sausage, steak etc? Does he like to tug or does he like squeaky toys? Does he growl at you when you try to stop him growling/aggressing towards other dogs? It could be redirected aggression. At his age the window for socialisation has been and gone. Socialisation is about giving your dog a new experience and assigning it a value, he's already learned that other dogs have a negative value so it's not about socialising him - it is about training him to be calm and responsive to you when other dogs are around - teaching him that he has options other than aggression when it comes to other dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I think the video would be a great idea Nix just a quick question but what's your routine at feeding time? im not sure tbh Amy as i dont feed him my mum or my dad does, im not normally around when he gets fed but i think they normally just put the food down n let them get on with it i do tell them 2 pick it up if they walk off and leave it and havent eaten it within 15 mins but alot ov the time i did notice yesterday and mum says he always does it is that Blaze will w8 till Bings has finished his food b4 he will eat his own Does he like food when you are at home? What if you are using cooked meat like chicken, sausage, steak etc? Does he like to tug or does he like squeaky toys? Does he growl at you when you try to stop him growling/aggressing towards other dogs? It could be redirected aggression. At his age the window for socialisation has been and gone. Socialisation is about giving your dog a new experience and assigning it a value, he's already learned that other dogs have a negative value so it's not about socialising him - it is about training him to be calm and responsive to you when other dogs are around - teaching him that he has options other than aggression when it comes to other dogs. he does like food like that yeah and hes not rly bothered with toys he does seem 2 growl at me more when im tryin 2 stop him going near other dogs yes - sumtimes he does it when i tell him 2 jump down (off my bed for example) n when he doesnt i hold his scruff and make him get down he grumbles then too - bec can u please pm me (or post it up on here) on how 2 train him 2 b calm and responsive too me when other dogs are around please - ANY help i get is gonna b usefull 2 me at sum point thnx 2 every1 who has posted up advice for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Nix, am gonna have a chat with Marc and see when we can come down again and help you. All depends on how things go with my grandad, as you know, will see what I can arrange and let you know x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 thnx sarah dont worry if things r too hard for u to come down tho Allens still helpin me and he was fine on his walk earlier hardly pulled at all its deffo a 'round other dogs' thing i THINK im not sure lol thnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 ok so i no ive still got ALOT ov work 2 do but i wanted 2 give u a little update as ive just got bk from a wlk we were wlkin (blaze is on his short lead) and the lads running behind us with a staffy so i move out the way and pull blaze 2 the side with me and he didnt even try 2 lunge at the dog or anythin he just gave a little growl - which is great for him and as we went further down the road this kid ran past us - normally he wud try n dive at sum1 running past us - but i made him site (we were near a road n he always has 2 sit at the roads) and he just looked at him Allens also helpin me gettin him 2 focus on me by makin me change the direction hes walking when he's determind 2 go one way - for example we heard this dog bark n blaze was determind 2 go the way he had heard the noise coming from so i made him sit and wait (which is my command for stay as the word stay makes bingo bark lol) then we changed direction and he calmed down so, so far so good - thnx for all ur help Allen i rly appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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