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Is it chicken wings and kibble or? How much do you spend roughly on raw? I spend 40 over a month or so for ice on kibble but after reading the advice ice seems so sluggish haha

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Okay great thank you!, I'm going to the shop one of the links that was posted, the shop is located in my town so they've said pop down and they will let me speak to their specialist, I have about 4kg of kibble left so I'm going to start buying soon so that I can spread the cost, also might pick up some chicken wings for this evenings meal to see what happens

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Alright so I've bought some chicken wings and poultry necks for now also got him a rawhide bone, just thawing 3necks and 3wings for his evening meal as he's already had some dry food this morning, so time to see what happens

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Ice isn't either, I tried and he kept spitting it out on the carpet, how do I get him to keep it in his bowl instead of taking it elsewhere like in the living room?

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Crate?? Shadow likes to take his around to he won't eat them in his bowl infact neither of mine do I have gates etc though or crates to stop them putting it on the carpet

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Okay so, ive now got, chicken wings, poultry necks, liver, heart and tripe... am i missing anything? 

what would the 80% be?

 

as im feeding 250g at the moment a day in the evening and 250g of wainwrights in the morning, would 80% of 250g be meat?

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Today I'm trying 200g tripe, 25g heart, 25g liver as he didn't take at all to his meal yday which was made up of 50% meats ect and 50% veggies

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After doing some research I'm wondering why I need to switch my pregnant girl to puppy kibble ? As long as she's eating enough surely she can stay on raw ?

Anyone tried raw during pregnancy ?

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After doing some research I'm wondering why I need to switch my pregnant girl to puppy kibble ? As long as she's eating enough surely she can stay on raw ?

Anyone tried raw during pregnancy ?

 

I think the only reason is that most vets know very little about canine nutrition and raw feeding and go with their usual preference for kibble. I went and did a bit of research and there is no reason why you can't feed raw and there are many reasons why you should not change her diet at this point. I am a raw feeder but no expert in pregnancy.

 

The only thing that  I would pay attention to is that you feed enough food and make sure the ratios are pretty correct. I also read that sometime they seem to prefer chicken when pregnant - must be like pickles and ice cream with hooman Mums LOL. I also think that raw green tripe is especially good during this period.

 

I don't know what your raw regime is like but if you are confident you can supply a good balanced meal then I think that this is the way to go. 

 

I can put your query on a huge Australian pure breed (all breeds) forum that has around 30,000 members, thousands, of breeders and a number of vets if you like. Obviously the more detail you can supply the better the advice will be. It can be a pretty nasty forum so I wouldn't really recommend you join them though. Let me know.

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Thanks for the offer jase, I think I'd rather avoid nasty forums if I can.

as for her raw diet, we are adjusting as we go as each day she seems to want something different, very like a human lol. Mad for sardines at the moment, yuk !

She's gaining weight well, seems to be good condition and strangely developed a love of being brushed.

As for more details, she's 14 months, caught on her 2nd season, was 30kg, now 38kg. Generally good health, due on Sept 8th, vet and mid-woof ready just in case. Started on panacur course (worming), don't really know what else to tell you.

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It sounds like you are doing a good job and the diet sounds like it is working. I personally don't see a need for a diet change but I am not an expert with this. I suppose it comes down to how confident you are with sticking to the raw and how this will impact your discussions with the vet? 

 

I don't want to get in over my head in an area that I am not 100% confident in, so just keep up with your research and I am sure you will do whatever is best for mum and pups  :)

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I love our vet, he adores my dogs and is great with them but he freely admits he knows nothing about raw diets. He keeps saying he'll have to do some research, but never does lol

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I love our vet, he adores my dogs and is great with them but he freely admits he knows nothing about raw diets. He keeps saying he'll have to do some research, but never does lol

 

That sounds like a good vet, at least he says he will do some research which indicates he is not dead against it. :)

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The thing with most vets is they are great with the medical side of things but useless at the nutritional side.

Plus most of them have some sort of sponsorship by one or other of the big Kibble companies

and so they always try to push that on you even though it's actually not very good stuff

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mmm ground pheasant patties

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We are doing premade raw with Nijiro because I'm not confident in my ability to do prey model for a puppy.  My other 2 eat lots of whole prey like whole rabbits and chickens with some large bone chunks from whatever we've gotten a side of.  Right now we are feeding out what's left of the deer we processed last fall.  Then we are getting bison when there's room in the chest freezer.  I generally don't tell the vets what we are feeding.  We keep fromm or taste of the wild kibble on hand as backup so I sometimes I just say we are feeding that.  It depends if I want to risk the vet's opinion on raw or not.

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I have one issue with giving mine bones. I was warned when we got my husky not to give him bones. He becomes very territorial with them and will snap at you when you try to take them from him. He does have some food agression. My st bernard german shepherd mix has a bad habbit of shattering the bones and that worries me because of the chances of the shards hurting her stomach and bowels. What do I do?

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The only bones that you should never feed are weight bearing and cooked bones. This means no marrow bones or shanks. These break teeth and can splinter very badly. Regarding the 'territorial' comment, this sounds like common resource guarding and it a training and behavioural matter as opposed to dietary.

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Hello,

I am new member here so hope to get some advises. We've a 5 months old Husky/Shepherd mix puppy, Molly. She has been on raw (ground) food since 8 weeks old and doing great. Our other dog 5 years old Basset, Charly is also on the same diet so no problem there.

I'd like to give whole prey raw food to Molly as treat, like day old chicks, small quails, rabbit head or rabbit ears etc. I've so far given her the day old chicks and she just chew and eat the whole thing, really like a wolf :-) 

Molly is still in her puppy phase which means she like to bully her brother dog Charly. When she was younger (8-9 weeks) we've dogsitted our neighbour Labrador dog and Molly keep biting on his neck while the lab held on to the toys. The Labrador was a very sweet dog and he never once growled at Molly. He was just obsessed with the toys and putting up with Molly's biting. Because of his long hair it took us a while to realise that Molly's bite have caused infection on his neck, and he ended up having to have the wound cleaned and was on antibiotic for a while. Charly on the other hands will cry if Molly bites him, so we could always stop the behaviour.  For your info, Molly is very careful with human, she would grab my hand/arm when I interfere, but once I tell her 'Hey, that's my arm', she let go. She never bite us and seems very careful with human flesh.

 

Now the question, I am concerned if the whole prey model will increase her prey drive or make her aggressive. This sounds silly as Charly has been on raw for years and I give him oxtail, pig foot occasionally and I have never once worry that he will become bloodthirsty. But Molly seems to be very wild spirit, like a real dog and now I am not sure. We fostered Molly's mother when she was pregnant so we know that she also has very high prey drive. (She gave birth at our place and we took care of the pups until the adoption completed through the local shelter, but that's a different story).

 

Does anyone have similar experience, as in feeding whole prey to high prey drive husky? I've yet to feed her rabbit, but if it is with fur on, I wonder if she will start chasing one if she sees them at the park.

 

Any comments are appreciated.

 

thanks!!

Jen

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Unless you tie some string around the quail etc and drag it around the garden getting the pup to chase it.

Simply giving the dog whole chicks etc won't increase the prey drive.

You are simply giving them a different textured food.

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