Rosemary Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 When I first started researching Huskies, many of the sites I came across stated that the husky scores rather low on the intelligence rating scale :eek: This is a link to one of the lists, which is pretty typical. Out of 80 breeds tested the husky is rated at 45. http://thehydrant.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/the-intelligence-of-dogs-the-list/ Some time ago @Sarah sent me this for Ozzy & Micah Thanks Sarah, my whole family had fun with it. We did the test, and then forwarded it to my daughter to test her two Dachshunds, then my sister who tested her lab and my mom her very intelligent XXX-breed )) When all the results were in - who was the most intelligent? - MICAH - A HUSKY But not just by a small margin - her score was 51 The description in the book for this rating is as follows: Score 48 to 53 Your dog has a superior intelligence with what can only be considered an extremely high CIQ. A dog of this intelligence will learn quickly. Be consistent and firm when giving your dog commands. Do not let your highly intelligent and resourceful pet get the best of you except when it comes to unconditional love. Ozzy was not far behind Micah on 47. A lot of the tests are problem solving with the aid of treats and Ozzy couldn't be bothered with that. Maybe if I tested him when he was hungry he would have got a higher score. I would like to know how many Huskies were tested to get to a score of 45. I think Dr Stanley Coren needs to choose his test dogs more carefully. HUSKIES RULE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staceybob Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Yay! I have that kit too and Aleu got into the higher category. Huskies are really intelligent - they're just stubborn. Stacey xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollys_mum Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Any chance someone could scan the test onto here, so we could all have a go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosemary Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 It is 22 pages, and is copyrighted We could get into lots of trouble, otherwise I would, it is a great test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollys_mum Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 That's a shame. I'll pop over to Amazon and see what they have in stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosemary Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I have just had a quick look and these are some tests I found on the internet for you to try http://www.billfoundation.org/news/more_dog_iq.html http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/7087840 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollys_mum Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 oooh, thanks! I looked on Amazon and plenty are available, but where do they get off charging nearly £5.00 postage?:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staceybob Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 oooh, thanks! I looked on Amazon and plenty are available, but where do they get off charging nearly £5.00 postage?:eek: Have you tried ebay? Stacey xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollys_mum Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Er, no. I'll trot off there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 This reminds me of something put on another post about this, someone wrote something like ask a husky to gee and it will wait and then turn into the gap in the trees...ask a Labrador to gee and it will turn right immediately and run straight into a tree... A test is only as good as its design and that design will reward certain breeds above others. And even in human psychology the exact definition of intelligence is hotly contested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 its cuz huskies usually ask why they should do something first - which imo IS intellegent! - they mean the top most obedient dogs for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_p Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Here's quite a good on-line version featuring Stanley Coren himself: http://www.abc.net.au/animals/dog_test/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosemary Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 This reminds me of something put on another post about this, someone wrote something like ask a husky to gee and it will wait and then turn into the gap in the trees...ask a Labrador to gee and it will turn right immediately and run straight into a tree... A test is only as good as its design and that design will reward certain breeds above others. And even in human psychology the exact definition of intelligence is hotly contested... That is true Gary, in tests like this, if your dog is not at all food motivated, like Ozzy, he will not perform as well as a dog like Micah who is extremely food motivated But it was fun all the same, and the huskies enjoyed it too, well Ozzy had his moments of extreme disinterest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laine Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 IMO Huskies should (biased) test higher on the IQ score. Huskies, by nature, are bred to be "stubborn" because sometimes they know more than the musher what's going on and sometimes counter the musher, sometimes for the best reasons. I don't think they'd score as high as a BC but I think they should be higher than the "midway" point of 45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Angel n Auroras Mum Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 bidding on one on ebay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kara Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 its cuz huskies usually ask why they should do something first - which imo IS intellegent! - they mean the top most obedient dogs for sure I have no need for a scoring tool....they score genius level when they want to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Melsom Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Apparently Huskies are average I dont agree because dogs could be like people some are just smarter then others but heres some numbers I found and an idea of what they base it on Brightest dogs obey first command 95% of the time and understands new commands less then 5 repetitions 1-Border Collie 2-Poodle 3-German Shepherd 4-Golden Retriever 5- Doberman Pinscher 6-Shetland Sheepdog 7-Labrador Retriever 8-Papillion 9-Rottweiler 10-Australian Cattle Dog Excellent Working Dogs- Obey first command 85% of the time or better and understand new commands 5-15 repetitions 11-Pembroke Welsh Corgi 12-Miniature Schnauzer 13-English Springer Spaniel 14-Belgian Tervuren 15-Schipperke Belgian Sheepdog 16-Collie Keeshond 17-German Shorthair Pointer 18- Flat-Coated Retriever English Cocker Spaniel Standard Schnauzer 19-Brittany 20-Cocker Spaniel 21-Weimaraner 22-Belgain Malinois Bernese Mountain Dog 23-Pomeranian 24- Irish Water Spaniel 25-Vizsla 26-Cardigan Welsh Corgi Above Average Working Dogs -Obey first comman 70% of the time or better and understands new commands 15-25 repetitions 27-Chesapeake Bay Retriever Puli Yorkshire Terrier 28-Giant Schnauzer 29-Airedale Terrier Bouvier Des Flandres 30-Border Terrier Briard 31-Welsh Springer Spaniel 32- Manchester Terrier 33-Samoyed 34- Field Spaniel Newfoundland Australian Terrier American Staffordshire Terrier Gordon Setter Bearded Collie 35-Cairn Terrier Kerry Blue Terrier Irish Setter 36-Norwegian Elkhound 37-Affenpincher Silky Terrier Miniature Pinscher English Setter Pharaoh Hound Clumber Spaniel 38-Norwich Terrier 39-Dalmatian Average Working/Obedience Intelligence-Obey first command 50% of the time or better and understanding new commands 25-40 repetitions 40-Soft-Coated Wheaten Terrier Bedlington Terrier Smooth Fox Terrier 41-Curly-Coated Retriever Irish Wolfhound 42-Kuvasz Australian Shepherd 43-Saluki Finnish Spitz Pointer 44-Cavalier King Charles Spaniel German Wirehaired Pointer Black & Tan Coonhound American Water Spaniel 45-Siberian Husky Bichon Frise English Toy Spaniel 46-Tibetan Spaniel English Foxhound Otterhound American Foxhound Greyhound Wirehaired Pointing Griffon 47-West Highland White Terrier Scottish Deerhound 48-Boxer Great Dane 49-Dachshund Staffordshire Bull Terrier 50-Alaskan Malamute 51-Whippet Chinese Shar-pei Wire Fox Terrier 52-Rhodesian Ridgeback 53-Ibizan Hound Welsh Terrier Irish Terrier 54-Boston Terrier Akita Fair Working/Obedience Intelligence -Obey first comman 30% of the time or better and undrstanding new commands 40-80 repetitions 55-Skye Terrier 56-Norfolk Terrier Sealyham Terrier 57-Pug 58-French Bulldog 59-Brissels Griffon Maltese 60-Italian Greyhound 61-Chinese Crested 62-Dandie Dinmont Terrier Petit Basset Griffon Vendeen Tibetan Terrier Japanese Chin Lakeland Terrier 63-Old English Sheepdog 64-Great Pyrenees 65-Scottish Terrier Saint Bernard 66-Bull Terrier 67-Chihuahua 68-Lhasa Apso 69-Bullmastiff Lowest Degree of working/Obedience Intelligence - Obey first command 25% of the time or worse and understanding new commands 80-100 repititions or more 70-Shih Tzu 71-Basset Hound 72-Mastiff Beagle 73-Pekingese 74-Bloodhound 75-Borzoi 76-Chow Chow 77-Bulldog 78-Basenji 79-Afghan Hound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_p Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I think many doggy intelligence tests are testing trainability more than intelligence. In Michelle Melsom's list above GSD rank no.3 . I have great experince of GSDs, but I would rate Huskies as being more intelligent. To me intelligence is about things like ability to solve problems. Huskies are great at, for example, working out how to open doors and gates and how to train their owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Melsom Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I think many doggy intelligence tests are testing trainability more than intelligence. In Michelle Melsom's list above GSD rank no.3 . I have great experince of GSDs, but I would rate Huskies as being more intelligent. To me intelligence is about things like ability to solve problems. Huskies are great at, for example, working out how to open doors and gates and how to train their owners. Ye they are using obeying as a big part of it I dont see how that determines its really.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tams Teeko and Keeta Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 My husky is freakishly intelligent. It disturbs me sometimes! He uses his toes like fingers and i'm pretty sure he understands English (he found a toy from a pile of toys when all I said was go get me your new toy, I want to play with that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosemary Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I have found that Micah is very quick to work out how to get around a problem she faces. She enjoys working on puzzle games where we build obstacles for her to work out - the more difficult (within reason) the puzzle, the more she likes it - as long as she can visaulise the yummy outcome she will usually keep at it. Ozzy prefers to just watch her, but it is cute when she eventually gets it right, Ozzy gets excited and seems to congratualte her - or maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part When it is Ozzy's turn he will try and use brute strength to get what he wants, if that doesn't work, he steps aside and lets Micah take over, that inself is pretty dam smart, but typical male Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazz Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 I've been outsmarted by Zoya more than I care to admit. I think these tests are fine, and I look at them as simply a fun thing to try. Our son has an Aussie/Border Collie mix, and Koda is very smart. I don't know that he is any smarter than Zoya. But I do know Zoya is more sneaky than Koda. Eisa responds when called, Zoya often ignores when called. Which of the two is smarter? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikitashuman Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 oooh i have the how smart is your dog thingmajig. Bought it for our Jack coz bless his socks he was a bright little spark. Haven't tried it on Nikki yet but will do. Hubby says its a good job shes preety coz shes not very smart, I say shes smart enough to act dull so nobody asks her to do anything to complicated (bit like me really) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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