xLOBOx Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Soooo I've been working with this IT guy at work all day on my laptop since its a mess....and I'm doing a deep defrag and I swear it's been going for 3 hours now and only at 30%! Is that like...normal? Haha. I had a total of nearly 5,000 files that needed to be fixed/removed from the computer...I definitely wasn't expecting that! Anyways.....I hope my laptop is working better after this freaking thing finishes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combats2001 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 To be honest it depends on home big the hard drive is and how much free space there is. If its like a 500GB drive and 90% full then it could be running for some time, where as if its only 100GB then your drive has some issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLOBOx Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Ah, bummer. Its a 250GB hard drive I think...and it's about 4 years old...about 75% full lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueWolf Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Yeah, it's fairly normal. Last time I used ntfs and was forced to defragmentate my harddrive it was about 40GB big and it took aaages! Best thing is to just leave it running and don't touch it at all in the mean time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreyRust Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 To my knowledge it also depends on how frag'ed up you're disk it... Ah, the joys of having linux/ext3 and not needing to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elyse Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 And the joys of having Mac OSX where you don't have to defrag either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreyRust Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 And the joys of having Mac OSX where you don't have to defrag either. That's debatable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueWolf Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 That's debatable Ext3/4 also have an online deframentator. It always works in the background. This works fine until you have your partition about 90% filled. For big files (like explained in this article) in ext3/4 I honestly don't know. If I would have very big files I would probably use Reiserfs anyway Just to include at least _something_ for the non-geeky people here: If you use ntfs (what Windows uses by default) you WILL need to manual deframentate it once in a while otherwise it will get slow over time. It's more of a requirement to do this actually. And it is normal for it to take aaaages to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elyse Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I usually defrag my Mac once every 2 years using iDefrag. There has been very little fragmentation considering the amount of large files I go through almost on a daily basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 I haven't defragged since xp! like 5 years ago, I usually break my PCs before they it is required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 i cant remember the last time i done a defrag, i done have the patience lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripled Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 A complete rebuild is quicker than a defrag, and probably end up with a faster machine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 A complete rebuild is quicker than a defrag, and probably end up with a faster machine! Indeed, its what we do at work, if it takes more than 30 mins to fix it......rebuild it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripled Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Indeed, its what we do at work, if it takes more than 30 mins to fix it......rebuild it! We go one better .... If it's broke ... switch it off, problem then goes away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 a hammer usually helps when things break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripled Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Ah the trusty IT tool kit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunc Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Can't remember last time I had to defreg a drive ( years ago ) don't see to need it these days unless you got a really old comp :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreyRust Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Can't remember last time I had to defreg a drive ( years ago ) don't see to need it these days unless you got a really old comp :eek: You should try it and then you WILL notice a speed increase... If you don't I'll give you a big ol' imaginary check for $1 Just do it before bed or you go out or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Depends on size of drive, speed of drive, storage type, fragmentation, operating system and software used to defrag ... And for those who think because you use xyz its good and you dont need to defrag thats incorrect. Files are stored on a physical disk which adds and removes metalic markers and therefore the second you remove a single file, you drive is fragmented even if its by a very small amount. The only exception to this rule is SSD drives and people who are using striped raid configurations, which should not be defragmented as doing so can actually slow down the access time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreyRust Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Depends on size of drive, speed of drive, storage type, fragmentation, operating system and software used to defrag ... And for those who think because you use xyz its good and you dont need to defrag thats incorrect. Files are stored on a physical disk which adds and removes metalic markers and therefore the second you remove a single file, you drive is fragmented even if its by a very small amount. The only exception to this rule is SSD drives and people who are using striped raid configurations, which should not be defragmented as doing so can actually slow down the access time. Though all drives fragment, ones like EXT3 tend to keep the data much better than NTFS drives, so you don't "NEED" to on them as much as NTFS or FAT32 and the improvements won't be as noticeable. While ext3 is more resistant to file fragmentation than the FAT filesystem, nonetheless ext3 filesystems can get fragmented over time or on specific usage patterns, like slowly-writing large files. ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Defragmentation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Though all drives fragment, ones like EXT3 tend to keep the data much better than NTFS drives, so you don't "NEED" to on them as much as NTFS or FAT32 and the improvements won't be as noticeable. ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Defragmentation Ahh .. as much indeed, however since they are run on an OS that also doesnt need reinstalling as often, then you are likley to have to defrag it at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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